He shall save His people from their sins...
that those who don't believe in Christ will spend all of eternity in Hell. All of eternity....can you
try to imagine what happened there. One of the gas chambers was left untouched by the war. A
gas chamber for people...Living, breathing, people. Think about that. After being herded in that
room, stripped, and degraded, to face what? What could they have been thinking at that time?
Then the gas starts......
book, Hope Beyond Hell, has this to say about salvation:
We may not know, on this side of eternity, exactly why God allowed us to believe that He had
created Hell for most people. We can speculate and probably come pretty close to the truth but
what we can do, for now, is take the information that we have been made aware of in the Bible
and believe it.
As he saith also in Hosea, I will call that my people, which was not my people; And her beloved, that
was not beloved.
Ro 9:26 NAS
And it shall be, [that] in the place where it was said unto them, Ye are not my people, There shall they
be called sons of the living God.
I say then, Hath God cast away his people? God forbid. For I also am an Israelite, of the seed of
Abraham, of the tribe of Benjamin. God hath not cast away his people which he foreknew. Wot ye not
what the scripture saith of Elias? how he maketh intercession to God against Israel, saying, Lord, they
have killed thy prophets, and digged down thine altars; and I am left alone, and they seek my life.
But what saith the answer of God unto him? I have reserved to myself seven thousand men, who
have not bowed the knee to the image of Baal Even so then at this present time also there is a
remnant according to the election of grace. And if by grace, then is it no more of works: otherwise
grace is no more grace. But if it be of works, then is it no more grace: otherwise work is no more work.
What then? Israel hath not obtained that which he seeketh for; but the election hath obtained it, and
the rest were blinded (According as it is written, God hath given them the spirit of slumber, eyes that
they should not see, and ears that they should not hear;) unto this day. And David saith, Let their table be
made a snare, and a trap, and a stumblingblock, and a recompence unto them: Let their eyes be darkened,
that they may not see, and bow down their back alway.
I say then, Have they stumbled that they should fall? God forbid: but rather through their fall salvation
is come unto the Gentiles, for to provoke them to jealousy. Now if the fall of them be the riches of the
world, and the diminishing of them the riches of the Gentiles; how much more their fulness? For I
speak to you Gentiles, inasmuch as I am the apostle of the Gentiles, I magnify mine office: If by any
means I may provoke to emulation them which are my flesh, and might save some of them. For if the
casting away of them be the reconciling of the world, what shall the receiving of them be, but life from
For if the firstfruit be holy, the lump is also holy: and if the root be holy, so are the branches. And if
some of the branches be broken off, and thou, being a wild olive tree, wert graffed in among them,
and with them partakest of the root and fatness of the olive tree; Boast not against the branches. But
if thou boast, thou bearest not the root, but the root thee. Thou wilt say then, The branches were
broken off, that I might be graffed in. Well; because of unbelief they were broken off, and thou
standest by faith. Be not highminded, but fear: For if God spared not the natural branches, take heed
lest he also spare not thee.
Behold therefore the goodness and severity of God: on them which fell, severity; but toward thee,
goodness, if thou continue in his goodness: otherwise thou also shalt be cut off. And they also, if
they abide not still in unbelief, shall be graffed in: for God is able to graff them in again. For if thou
wert cut out of the olive tree which is wild by nature, and wert graffed contrary to nature into a good
olive tree: how much more shall these, which be the natural branches, be graffed into their own olive
For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your
own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come
in. And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and
shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob: For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away
As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, they are
beloved for the fathers' sakes. For the gifts and calling of God are without repentance. For as ye in
times past have not believed God, yet have now obtained mercy through their unbelief: Even so have
these also now not believed, that through your mercy they also may obtain mercy. For God hath
concluded them all in unbelief, that he might have mercy upon all.
judgments, and his ways past finding out! For who hath known the mind of the Lord? or who hath been
his counsellor? Or who hath first given to him, and it shall be recompensed unto him again? For of
him, and through him, and to him, are all things: to whom be glory for ever. Amen.
submit to the lordship of Jesus Christ.
The wages of sin is death, not eternity in Hell. It seems that the idea of endless Hell came from the
translators clumping about four different words meaning four different things, into one intimidating,
manipulating, horrifying, word, called Hell. You can read a literal translation of the Bible and find all
four words as they were originally inspired by the Holy Spirit. Amazingly enough, none of them indicate
endless torture. Regret? Yes Punishment? Yes. Endless? NO!
Keep in mind that during this period of time when these words were "blended" into one word, Hell, is
the time when Christianity had become organized into the "state" church, It's leaders had become
extremely corrupt, to the point of selling "tickets" called indulgences, as best as I understand, to keep
one from being punished for sins....
greater than the wealth of the richest Crassus, build the basilica of St. Peter with his own money rather
than with the money of poor believers?"
puffed up. Those wicked hearts live in every one of us also. Our modern day denominational and inter
denominational churches can become controlling as well. Actually, anything that us pitiful humans
touch can go awry and probably will unless God, Himself, intervenes....
the Hell that traditional Christianity has taught for years has been understood in light of the original
words being mistranslated. Knowing that God is in control and that He has a certain time for certain
people or groups of people to come into His kingdom helps us helps clear up the mystery of some
people not accepting the message of Christ. It doesn't mean they will always reject it.
teaching of endless Hell really as obvious as we think it has been? Or, have we just blindly accepted it
without looking for ourselves?" If such an atrocity were true...why didn't God tell Adam and Eve about
it? Not only them but every other person until the time of Christ? Wouldn't He have told His prophets
to warn the people? Come on, THINK!!! Ask questions!!!
does that say for Him? If He is all knowing, then He knew who would accept Jesus and who would not.
If He is all powerful, then He could have created a different plan. It just does not make sense anyway
you look at it. Plus, it is in opposition to many other scriptures. This should challenge us to study and
do our best to try to find out where this teaching came from and how it came to be eternal.
everlasting punishment: but the
righteous into life eternal
Matthew 25:46 (some damned forever)
|And I, if I be lifted up from the
earth, will draw all men unto me.
This he said, signifying what death
he should die.
John 12:32,33 (all drawn to Christ)
|Do you see the disagreement going on with the two scriptures
In thirty years of reading the Bible, I never saw what John 12:32 said. Do you see it? I
thought His being lifted up was what we did when we praised him. Well, that's what the
hymn said...... John tells plainly that it refers to the cross.
Forever, How Can All Be Drawn To Christ????
According to Wikipedia, this is a picture of an indulgence. Here is what it said:
An indulgence granted with the authority of the Pope by Johann Tetzel in 1517.
The text reads: "By the authority of all the saints, and in mercy towards you, I
absolve you from all sins and misdeeds and remit all punishments for ten days."
The Spirit of the Lord is
upon me, because he
hath anointed me to
preach the gospel to the
poor; he hath sent me to
heal the brokenhearted,
to preach deliverance to
the captives, and
recovering of sight to the
blind, to set at liberty
them that are bruised,
Make Any Sense to You?
in the Four Letter Greek