Why didn't Paul tell the idol worshipers in Athens about hell?
Did Jesus ever say the word hell?
shouldn't He still be there?
Why did Jesus warn no one but the Jews about Hell?
Do you "try" to love God because you feel you have to? Be honest...
Are you afraid that someone you love will go to hell?
Would you like to know that no one will spend eternity in
People from mainline denominations are coming to accept the fact that the salvation of all
mankind can be Found in the scriptures. Some are in the middle on this issue but are at
least admitting that there is a great likelihood that it is true. One minister in particular has
written a book about it but because he is known as a mainline denominational leader, he
wrote the book under a pseudonym. It is "The Evangelical Universalist" by Gregory
Macdonald. Other than the fact that it makes a lot more sense than believing God
created most of humanity to burn in Hell, believing it can drastically affect how we relate
to people. Yes, I know the argument is that God created none to go to Hell, people go
there of their own choice. I used to believe that too. That would mean that God is totally
out of control, that someone else is more powerful then He is.
If we are genuinely interested in finding out about what the Bible really says about Hell,
we just have to set aside our present ideas and start to search. I know for me, I see God in
a whole new light. I can see the heart of God. See Him in the woman who lost her coin
and swept her house until she found it. See Him as the good shepherd who goes to find
the one sheep that is lost. Granted, He may have to break the little thing's leg to keep him
in the fold, if he is a wayward sheep, but He will do that. Wayward or not, He belongs to
the shepherd. See Him as the merchant man who found in us a pearl of great price and
gave everything He had, including His life, to purchase it. We were made FOR Him. For
His own sake, He blots out our iniquities. That should comfort your heart!
It has been said that we become like the "God" we serve. If we see Him as cruel and
demanding we have a good chance of turning out like that ourselves. On the other hand,
but able to see to it that they but able to see to it that they all end up in His good graces, it
actually makes it possible it possible all end up in makes for us to learn to love people
like He loves them.
It's not about right rules and bylaws, right methods of baptism, right hairdos, right
denominations, it's about love. It's about being conformed into the image of God's dear
son. It's about change, and that is something we will all experience. It's about
forgiveness. Feed my enemy, you say? How can that ever happen unless the fire of God
burns the selfishness out of us? To use a well worn expression in the world of Christian
Universalism which is a little on the light hearted side but should cause us to think,
I ask..Would God tell us to love our enemies when He plans to fry His?
Why I Believe No One Will Stay In Hell
I am using the word "Hell" here strictly for the benefit of those of you who believe it is a literal
place of fire, pain, and torture. When it comes right down to it, not only do I believe no one will
stay in Hell, I believe no one will GO to this Hell, because I don't believe "that" Hell exists, nor
has it ever existed.
God defines Himself as “Love”.
God is sovereign. There is no greater power. He gets what He wants.
He created us to seek/find Him
He instructs us to pray for ALL MEN.
We were created FOR God's pleasure
Man nor devil can overthrow His plan.
God planned the fall of man, in Adam. (Lamb was slain before foundation of the world)
God created vessels of honor and dishonor(Judas, Pharaoh) for His plan.
God created all of creation in corruption and futility.
God created all of creation with the hope of being delivered from it.
Our view of Hell does not come from the Bible.
None of the 4 words translated “hell” indicate endlessness.
The Lake of fire appears to be God, Himself. (see interesting words)
If punishment of unbelievers is endless, some scriptures must be ignored.
God commands all men everywhere to repent.
Christ will reign until all are in submission to Him.
Every knee will bow in worship and every tongue will confess Jesus as Lord
Jesus is the only way to God. No man comes except through Him.
No man comes to God unless He is drawn by God’s spirit.
Jesus said, if He was crucified that He would “draw” all men to Himself.
The Greek word for “draw” literally means drag.(check it out yourself)
Jesus tasted death for every man.
God has concluded all in unbelief that He may show mercy to all.
God's punishments are corrective.
This is an excerpt from Ryan Healy's "The Greatest Love Story Never
Told" Read whole article.
hundred years ago.
thought of before, but had never been able to Biblically support. Here is what Knoch
The grand truth concerning the eonian times, now recovered from Scriptures, will relieve
the minds of many noble men. So said a trained theologian, after having spent seventy
years of his life without ever hearing it mentioned. No normal human being desires to
believe in everlasting torment, even for his worst enemy. Some of its strongest and
noblest advocates have expressed their profound sorrow that they were compelled to
teach it, and declared that God Himself would have it otherwise, were it in His power.
Those who gloat in it and enjoy preaching it, expose the baseness of their own hearts.
The fact that the Bible teaches it may demand acquiescence, but it cannot command
The fact that everlasting torment is contrary to God's revealed character and clashes with
every human instinct does not disprove it. If God's Word teaches it, it's true. But the fact
that it is repugnant, not merely to the nature we have by creation, but especially to the
spirit we receive as a seal of God's salvation, should lead us to investigate the grounds on
which it rests. The original Scriptures are infallible, but the Bible we have is only a
translation, into which a measure of human fallibility is mixed. Does the Original teach
he will either quit being mistaken, or cease to be
Mrs. Magillicutty Goes to Hell and
God Of The Ages
The Truth About God
Associates For Scriptural Knowledge
Serious Seminal Samplings
Word Of Grace
What The Hell Is Hell
The Savior Of All.C
Hell Is Not Endless Rodger Tutt
J Lee Worship
Indian Hills Church
Christian Universalists Association
The Glory Road
Not Just Notes
|So, you say you
will be cast into
you tried to
You know, if I really believed in an endless Hell, I
would have myself sterilized so I wouldn't bring
more humans into existence and risk their going
Read this testimony of a man that did just that.
Personally, I think it's the only sensible thing to do.
A Few Last Minute Thoughts On Hell
|The Bible is mostly written to God's People, not the heathen. The Old Testament is a lot of history and
prophecy and just everyday common sense and wisdom that could benefit anyone, but if one is not
concerned with God in some way, he would probably not be interested in reading it. It is written by men,
chosen of God, to give instruction, history, correction, warning, and consolation, to HIS people. I really
think the idea was/is for those people to take the message to the rest of the world. And that, not so
much in word only, but , to be done by exemplifying the true nature of Christ in us. What is that nature?
Doing what He did. Laying down our lives to reach people. Not too motivating is it? Unless you are one
of God's people, then it becomes your prayer to be empowered by the Holy Spirit to be able to do it.
Now, think about the New Testament. How do many of the books start? By addressing CHURCHES, right?
The Bible is a collection of books about God to people who were chosen by God to be a special people
to Himself, to people concerned with or seeking God, and to those of us who are believers.
Jesus even said that He came for the lost sheep of the house of Israel. Yes, He came as the savior of
the whole world but He also came as a teacher to His people. Savior to the whole world because He
made the whole world. What was He to do create millions of people, only to choose out a few for His
elect, then wadd up the rest and toss 'em in the garbage can? No, they are all valuable to Him. God so
loved the WORLD.....
Many of the Hell scriptures are addressed to the people who were supposed to be God's chosen
people, They were being warned of the regret they would experience if they chose their own way over
giving up their preconceived ideas of who the Messiah was. The message to them was "repent". Or,
change your ideas about the Messiah and the kingdom.
|We know we are all born condemned because of John 3...But what does that mean? It seems we just naturally assume it Means we go to
Hell at death if we have not believed. But what if "condemned" simply means that, like Paul said in Roman 7, we have a sin making
machine in us(my version) and sooner or later it is going to get us into loads of trouble. Perhaps THAT is why we need saving. NOT saving
Looking at the "Hell" words in the Bible, it seems that we are missing something. I guess it is just a human thing to bolster what we
already believe instead of seeing what the Bible really says. The Hell words in the OT are Sheol and Tophet, or, the valley of Hinnom,
Sheol is where everybody went when they died...good or bad. It is just the place of the dead, period. It is called Sheol, the grave and the
pit. Tophet is the valley of Israel's demise when they are totally defeated because of their disobedience. In the New Testament it is
Daniel 12:2 is the only other reference in the Old Testament that people interpret as a "Hell" scripture. He only mentions that some will
be raised to shame and everlasting contempt....no mention of endless torture. And if Daniel is writing about the people of God, then he is
not writing about rank sinners..he is writing about the PEOPLE OF GOD, which also happen to be the recipients of the Hell warnings (ref:
Gehenna NT,Tophet, valley of Hinnom in OT) in the New Testament.
It seems logical to me that only those who were given the oracles of God would be the ones raised to everlasting shame when they find
out they were doing their own thing instead of God's thing, which is what they were supposed to do.(except for the fact that some of
them were blinded by God for a time, for a purpose)
(side note... Now, those of us who think we are pleasing God by tallying up all that we do for Him, may one day find that we have been
pleasing our own ego instead. That could have a good bit of shame with it...so, check your motives Christian. Why do you do what you do?
If we learn to judge ourselves, we won't be judged. Will WE hear..depart, I never knew you?
I don't think the Hell Christianity knows about was ever God's Hell in the first place. And, I believe that "Hell" is the "glitch" in our
theology I also believe the "Hell" that God did allow is for the purpose of correction.
What did Jesus tell the "children of Hell" in Matthew 23 ? (Use reason...based on what He said, could Hell be endless?)
You won't see me again UNTIL you say.."Blessed is He who comes in the name of the Lord!"
Think about it: Doesn't this mean the Pharisees will change their mind and their thinking? Isn't that the definition of repentance?
Here are some quotes from people who believe in a literal, burning
Hell. After finding the real meaning of the "Hell words", it is so hard
to understand how one can be so hard and calloused as the people
who made these comments.
Click Here to Read the Comments.
You know, reading some of those comments, I get the feeling that
the "commenters" are coming up with the best explanations they
can to make some sense out of a rediculously, unbelievable,
Think about it.....what kind of parent could look at their child
suffering horribly and not have one bit of compassion? I am so
thankful that I was allowed to find what the original languages of the
Bible say about God's judgment and the purpose for it. It makes so
much more sense.....
God Is Reasonable! Religion is not.
|"BLESSED ARE THE CRACKED,FOR THEY ARE
THE ONES WHO LET IN THE
|You could be thinking that one who
believes all will be saved does not
fear the judgments of God. Let me
tell you, that couldn't be further
from the truth. Since I learned about
God's plan to redeem all of His
creation I have more respect and
actual fear of His judgments that
The idea of eternal torture is so
unbelievable it causes many to just
blow off the notion of judgment
altogether if they consider
themselves a Christian.
God is still a God of justice. But let
me ask you this question.
How just is it for God to lose
most of His creation to the devil?
Give that question some real
Listen to this awesome song about God's love
for His creation. Think of God as the love of
your life. Your relationship with Him WILL start
How HE Loves Us
|This is the big Hell scripture of Christendom. Its amazing how simple it isn't!
Do you believe that we are saved by our works?
Let's see what this Hell passage really says.
31 When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit
upon the throne of his glory: 32 And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate
them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats: 33 And he shall set the
sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left.
34 Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the
kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world: 35 For I was an hungred, and ye gave
me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in: 36 Naked, and ye
clothed me: I was sick, and ye visited me: I was in prison, and ye came unto me.
37 Then shall the righteous answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, and fed thee?
or thirsty, and gave thee drink? 38 When saw we thee a stranger, and took thee in? or naked, and
clothed thee? 39Or when saw we thee sick, or in prison, and came unto thee?
40And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it
unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me. 41Then shall he say also unto
them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and
his angels: 42For I was an hungred, and ye gave me no meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me no drink:
43I was a stranger, and ye took me not in: naked, and ye clothed me not: sick, and in prison, and ye
visited me not.
44Then shall they also answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, or athirst, or a
stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister unto thee? 45Then shall he answer
them, saying, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye did it not to one of the least of these, ye did it not
46And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.
Hum... We see what He didnt say.
He didn't say to those on His left...depart from me, ye cursed, nto everlasting fire, prepared for the
devil and his angels: For you never accepted Me as your savior....
Just something to think about.....
|I found it is OK to
come out of the
box. When I got
out of one box, I
found I was in
another, until I
finally realized God
owns all the boxes!
Many people know the Bible says death and Hell will be cast into the lake of fire, so, probably, whatever we believe Hell
to be, most believe it is the lake of fire, spoken of in Revelation.
Because we see this as the grand finale of God's plan for the wicked and unbelievers, we don't think about it much. We just
accept it. Like it or not... Who can change it? Who would argue with God about His plan? But, what we may not think
about is ..What if the lake of fire is not the grand finale? Is that possible?
Can we do that without questioning God?
As our President said, "Yes We Can". One thing that may be helpful is to ask yourself..why fire? Well, our God seems to
be all about fire and that could be because He is an all consuming fire, Himself. Also, keep in mind that it is not just the one's
who are cast into the lake of fire that experience the fire of God.
Moses saw God as a bush on fire. Fire protected and guided God's people through the wilderness and at the same time
held back their enemies. Fire baptized the early believers when they were filled with the Holy Ghost and Fire. We are told
to think it not strange concerning the "fiery trials" that will try us. God must think fire is important huh?
As believers, we experience God's fire every time we are convicted of sin in our lives. Think about the lake of fire with these
things in mind. Here is an excerpt from a book I want to show you. It explains it pretty well, in my opinion....
“Salted With Fire – A Gift for the Body of Christ”
Author....John Van Tuyl
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|The Lake The Burns With
Fire And Brimstone
|We believe what we believe about hell because of the way our Bibles read.
As traditional church goers, probably, very few of us have been encouraged to voice our fears and questions when
it comes to hell. As much as I didn't understand the whole concept of hell, I felt I had no choice but to believe it
because of what the Bible says.
Well, in the last few years, I started to see some of the other things the Bible says. One of them is .."Come, let us
reason together..." I knew that verse existed, I just never did what it said. I guess I didn't know I could "reason"
where Hell was concerned.
Why are we uncomfortable with reasoning when it comes to hell? Perhaps we just feel inadequate to even
speculate. Are we afraid that God will send us to hell if we question it?
Jesus didn't say, "whosoever believeth in hell shall have everlasting life." He said, "for God so loved the world, that
He sent His only begotten son, that whosoever believeth in Him should not perish but have everlasting life."
We are encouraged from the scriptures to search them, to rightly divide them, to study like the Bereans to see if
what we have been taught is true.
God is the perfect father. He disciplines His children as any father would, but, His punishment is for our good, not for
our endless torture. Who would benefit by eternal torment? Seriously...think about it...
For me, finding out that the doctrine of hell is not as "set in stone" as I thought it was has been too good to be true,
but I believe it is.
Jesus said, "fear not" way too many times for us to be afraid to enjoy life to the fullest. Enjoying life became an
impossiblity for me, believing so many people would burn in hell forever, especially, some of my family
The Bible is where we get
our traditional view of
With some study we find
that it's original languages
shed quite a different light
Saints In The Arms Of A Happy God
My Statement of Faith
What Changed My Mind?
God Is In Control
The Bible Says
What Is Hell In The Bible?
Forever & Ever
The Lake Of Fire
Heaven vs Hell
The Objective (Why Are We Here?)
The Bottom Line
License To Sin?
Is Hell For Non-believers?
Of Christian Universalism
To The Message Of
Carlton Pearson article
Back To The Drawing Board
C A R M
(Matt Slick Rebuttal)
Take The Quiz
Do You Love Jesus?
How Big Is Your God?
Three Agents of Biblical
Cleansing (Stephen Jones
All Israel Will Be Saved